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PostPosted: Wed Mar 28, 2018 3:39 pm 
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uoficpa wrote:
http://mgoblog.com/diaries/loyola-chicago-first-glance

What an arrogant group...." Loyola was made to be Michigan's b*tch" ?

"We will only lose if the refs screw us"

WTHeck ?!?!?


I really hope we kick their little blue balls and send them home.


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PostPosted: Wed Mar 28, 2018 4:06 pm 
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Just to add....
I read all the MIch. posts as did you guys.
What I take issue with the most is their analysis of Cam Krutwigs physique and ability.
They paint him as someone I do not know. It seems that Blue likes 7' three point shooters, and "hope he isn't cold from the field, and hope he doesn't foul out, etc...
I see a Michigan team that was pretty lucky to get past Houston, thanks to help from a badly designed defense on the last play by the Houston coach. They got past the next game, shooting poorly, thanks to an opponent that was worse from the field. So, from where does the arrogance come? Besides, in the whole universe of available point guards, theirs shoots 51% m the free throw line. Is that not a problem? If they were so solid would not a different point guard be in play?
OK, I believe they are a good team, physically larger than us, but to imply we don't bother to play the game, because of our apparent deficiencies is ridiculous. Both teams are well coached, can be very good, but also could disappoint on any given night.
Play the game is what you do, thats what counts and thats what LU will do. Win or lose, our Ramblers are a remarkable group and I will remain Rambler proud... PS I do think LU will prevail! I'd love to see CK rise to the occasion. Just a hunch from watching a ton of games, both LU and MIch....
Oh, and by the way, we have PM and they don't!


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PostPosted: Wed Mar 28, 2018 4:11 pm 
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Eh, if (when) we win Saturday, they’ll erase it from their memory and pretend all of their trash talk never happened. Just like Tennessee fans did with their trash talk on Twitter. Just like the NCAA did with Michigan’s Fab 5 years.


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PostPosted: Wed Mar 28, 2018 4:16 pm 
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uoficpa wrote:
I guess we should be sorry for interrupting the Blue Blood party....


If it’s supposed to be a basketball blue blood party, then why is Michigan there?


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PostPosted: Wed Mar 28, 2018 9:12 pm 
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You all don’t understand ... these guys beat the University of Houston to get here.. so they are just on a much higher level than us.


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PostPosted: Wed Mar 28, 2018 10:31 pm 
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mgoblog has hundreds if not thousands of contributors. Just because someone posts a ridiculous thread does not mean the majority or even the authors Brian & Ace agree. In fact I was completely ignorant of the thread people are outraged about. For every stupid link there several good ones, and the links & podcasts created by the authors I think are reasonable. I maybe read about 20% of the content outside of the primary post by Brian & Ace. Brian & Ace are passionate about everything Michigan sports. They have done some things especially with analysis in football that no other blog does. I love their UFR's where they will attempt to break every play down and grade it. They are also not homers and will call it based on their observations and the advanced metrics. These guys love the third order stats. But they call it as they see it. On the pod cast prior to the Houston game one of the other members insisted Houston was going to win. They had a good natured heated discussion. But homers are uninteresting. If they think UM is going to lose they call it out. I also love it that they will analyze some of the lesser known sports and give hockey, softball, lacrosse, and even curling. Their analysis of the US woman's curling team was awesome. As someone who knows some of the curling rules I appreciated they knew the sport enough to give an analysis.

On to technical stuff the reason why Cameron Krutwig is under a microscope is because what happens with him has the largest determination of the game at least on the UM offense verses Loyola defense. When Mo Wagner has been matched up on brawny big men he has killed them, not killed them broken their ankles at least figuratively. Wagner has two skill sets that are hard for centers to match up. One he loves the perimeter and draws centers to the 3pt line. He is also very agile for a big man loves to drive to the basket. This is important because Loyola's defense efficiency is 10 points inferior when Krutwig is out. The question is how well does Krutwig match up and if he can't is the 5 guard response or a zone suitable. There are centers that give Wagner problems. Krutwig does not appear to be the kind of guy who is comfortable guarding someone at the 3pt line. I will leave it at that.

Regardless of what happens or whether mogoblog is right verses wrong is the big question what happens. We do not know because KSU's starting center and best player was out, UT's starting center was out, Nevada had no center. That leaves just Miami for a sample space. I do not know Dewan Huell very well or can comment if he is any good or not. The rest of the positions appear to match up. If Krutwig is a big cat on skates who can stay with Wagner than Loyola has a better chance to win. If not Loyola may lose the initiative because now small ball or zone may have to be an option. I personally am debating if we will see zone because my understanding is a pack line defense has a lot of zone concepts. But right now it is unclear to me what happens when Krutwig is challenged. So to ask the question is legit. Clearly Brian & Ace are of the opinion this is a matchup that can be exploited.

That all said I take exception that all UM fans are arrogant and it would be oh so fun to shut them up if they lose. There are good fans and bad fans. If you want to pick & choose just like foreign intelligence gathering you will find what you are looking for. Me personally UM was not even supposed to make the NCAA tournament and we were supposed to have to wait for next year. So like 1997 I am just enjoying it and even if we lose the season was a lot of fun. In many ways UM is far more the collection of misfit toys than Loyola could ever be. The starting PG can't hit a FT. The starting shooting guard was a 2 star who could not get a scholarship even in the Horizon league. The starting SF was told to get out of Kentucky because he sucked. The starting center is a German whose scholarship was an afterthought because a coach saw some grainy film and went on a hunch. The PF is a Div III player who could not get a Div I scholarship, and lost his starting job to a freshman because he could not play defense. Maybe Big Blue is not appropriate to describe UM, but this team is certainly not blue blooded. You should appreciate UM because they really are a mirror of Loyola. They are not highly regarded, play as a team, sum is greater than the parts, and they fight to battle each other up. I'm an old Bo follower and I love their gritty team effort. I think they deserve their 4 pt spread per the computer simulations. Does not mean that they will win. But I will be intrigued to see what happens in the game within the game when Krutwig and Wagner and/or Teske are matched up.


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PostPosted: Wed Mar 28, 2018 10:33 pm 
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Michigan fan here... We're not all arrogant. I have been pulling for you all this tournament and don't like that we have to play you. You certainly are a very good team, otherwise you wouldn't be in the final four. I think that a lot of people took issue that your original post came across as kind of dismissive of Michigan and they responded by being dismissive of Loyola. Thankfully, neither team will underestimate the other and we both have good coaches who prepare diligently so the game should be competitive regardless of dumb people on the internet. I will certainly root for you guys if you beat us, and hope you will root for us if we beat you. A lot of our fans are obnoxious but our coach and team are as humble and nice as they come. We might be a power 5 school, but we're not a blue blood and our team this year is kind of a rag tag bunch who's found a way, never expecting to make it this far.


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PostPosted: Thu Mar 29, 2018 6:03 am 
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I think its important to remember that Michigan has a lot of fans who have no relation to the university at all, unlike Loyola where the vast majority of the fan base are either alums, parents of alums, RoPa residents etc. In my experience (I live in Ann Arbor) the UM Fans who actually have a connection to the school are pretty nice and represent their school well...its the others that (again just my experience) are the arrogant insufferable ones.


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PostPosted: Thu Mar 29, 2018 8:15 am 
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I agree with the other Wolverine fans on this site. I love it when the Butlers and Loyola's of the world take it to the power programs. And I have also rooted for Loyola on their side of the bracket. The only thing I regret is not seeing Loyola beating Kentucky, the real big blue and the real arrogant snobs. And then I get to tell my aunt off. I used to have fun when Louisville would show up those snobs from Lexington. But now I can't root for Louisville until they clean up their program or at least generate the illusion of cleaning up their program :) Remember, the same fans belittling Loyola are the same fans who were calling for John Beilein to be fired and still want Jim Harbaugh to be fired. They live their success on the condensed stats of wins an losses, and if there are losses they are angry and wins they troll. To me that is incredibly boring. Even in losing I love the analysis of why.


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PostPosted: Thu Mar 29, 2018 10:35 am 
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The scUM and the fans are known as Wallmart Wolverines... The actual grads of MI are cool and they will tell you in under 10 minutes, most likely 5 minutes, that they are a scUM grads.

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x2mkkmg

Michigan State sPARTY fans are worse!

Nothing better than a good Jesuit School winning it all!


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