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 Post subject: Re: Who Gave The OK?
PostPosted: Sat Apr 30, 2016 2:15 pm 
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A few more players speaking out:

http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/co ... story.html


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 Post subject: Re: Who Gave The OK?
PostPosted: Sun May 29, 2016 4:58 pm 
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http://www.loyolaphoenix.com/2016/05/sw ... treatment/

Keeps getting better. When is anybody going to ask for the University's reply to the NCAA in 2014.


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PostPosted: Sun May 29, 2016 9:06 pm 
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While the involvement from AD Watson may have just been to schedule the meetings the added information on the atmosphere of the program and to me specifically the lack of emphasis on these players being student-athletes in totally unacceptable. Coach Swoops has to go. What is amazing to me is that it took so many transfers to bring attention to this. Who was responsible for REVIEW of the program????


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 Post subject: Re: Who Gave The OK?
PostPosted: Sun May 29, 2016 10:19 pm 
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Grace Calhoun, Susan Malisch, Steve Watson and of course Tom Kelly


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 Post subject: Re: Who Gave The OK?
PostPosted: Mon May 30, 2016 7:57 am 
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This is actually sad! Reading the story on the Loyola Phx breaks my heart. Imagine sending your kid away to school and the coaches and staff bully and mentally abuse your kids all season. Loyola is 100% percent to blame. How do you let this go on for 3 years and no one speaks up!! The Athletic department appears to be covering for the staff. Watson replies it's business as usual until the investigation is over. It's been noted that the coaching staff was seen in around the school during the investigation. Not a good luck to indirectly come around the players during a open investigation. No control, no leadership equals disaster and I'm hearing possible lawsuits. Not what we want for our Jesuit Institution. PR nightmare!


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 Post subject: Re: Who Gave The OK?
PostPosted: Mon May 30, 2016 2:33 pm 
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Kelly and his posse are just arrogant. If Watson, Malisch, Calhoun, and Kelly say they didn't know what was going on then in my opinion they are lying. They think they can do anything and nobody will do anything. I hope those kids exhaust every means possible to them and hold these people responsible. I still want to know who replied to the NCAA in 2014 and what was stated. What idiot is letting these coaches conduct business as usual.


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 Post subject: Re: Who Gave The OK?
PostPosted: Tue May 31, 2016 8:26 am 
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IF you read the story by sloan it says the ncaa contacted swoopes and she denied the allegations...... what a mess this is! The Administration should be ashamed of this mess.
In the five-page letter, Soane detailed her concerns with Loyola’s women’s basketball program, citing specific incidents in which she and her teammates felt mistreated by Swoopes. Three other letters sent to the NCAA, written by people close to the team, backed Soane and also detailed Swoopes’ alleged mistreatment. The PHOENIX viewed copies of those three other letters, but the authors asked The PHOENIX to keep their names anonymous and letters confidential.

Soane said the NCAA failed to respond to her directly, instead asking Swoopes what she thought of the situation. The NCAA also allowed Swoopes to have the final say on whether Soane would be required to redshirt, according to Soane.

“It went to the NCAA and … they just asked Swoopes, ‘Did this happen?’ and she denied it … It became a ‘he said, she said thing,’” said Soane. “[Swoopes] said the letters of support [for Soane from people close to the team] were out of anger because they were [no longer with the program], and that [I] was just a player that was upset because [I] wasn’t getting playing time.”


In the 2014-15 season, Swoopes threw a cup of water at a player after becoming upset, according to multiple sources who witnessed the incident and requested anonymity. That player, who transferred to a new school after the 2014-15 season, confirmed the incident but declined to comment.

The next season, assistant coach Mahogany Green forcefully threw a basketball at sophomore guard Tashawnya Edwards after she made a mistake in a team drill, according to four players who were at the practice. Edwards, who is one of the 10 departing players, confirmed the incident but declined to comment.

Green, who left Loyola’s program on May 25 to be an assistant coach for Colgate University’s women’s basketball team, denied the allegations.

“[I] don’t remember that happening,” said Green. “I don’t abuse players … [I’ve] been coaching 15 years. I do my job, and I do my job well. That’s not in my character.”

Somebody explain this mess!


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 Post subject: Re: Who Gave The OK?
PostPosted: Tue May 31, 2016 11:16 am 
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It wouldn't surprise me the Swoopes would tell a player she made the response to the NCAA. There is no way that the NCAA asked a coach directly. It would have to go the school's AD at the time. The university would then send in the response. I want to know if that was what the university did. I think it's a very fair question.


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 Post subject: Re: Who Gave The OK?
PostPosted: Tue May 31, 2016 12:38 pm 
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It's hard to figure out what the NCAA was up to. However, technically, Soane was asking for a red shirt year and not registering a complaint about the coach per se. In the bureaucracy that is the NCAA, her letter may have gone to the eligibility people who didn't see the alleged abuse as their problem. Speculating even more wildly, it could be standard procedure for such requests for the information to be verified by the coach. Sometimes organizations do very stupid things when people are only focusing narrowly on their own jobs.


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 Post subject: Re: Who Gave The OK?
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Good points!! Actually observing Malisch interact with Kelly during games. Watching her run up to his seats and tell him everything that was going on, I would bet that she knew and so did Kelly in 2014. My opinion is that they did nothing to correct Swoopes and just covered their rear ends by denying the allegations because they gave her an extension and couldn't look incompetent. Kelly has allegedly made a career of cutting department budgets under his control. He has told me directly the AD job is about three things revenue, revenue, revenue. and that Malisch wanted to stay on as AD. Draw your own conclusions what these two would do about an allegedly abusive coach under a new contract they provided.
All of this is classic bullying behavior. I don't see anyone being held responsible. How do you let an alleged abuser represent the university and allow her to interact with players and students. If she is found to have committed these acts wouldn't that open up a slew of lawsuits against Loyola because you deliberately put those players in harms way.
The smart thing to do would be paid leave for the entire staff and Watson, Truax, and Soboro taken over until things got sorted.


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