The Peoria newspaper said that that Bradley coach requested the review on the play involving the former Manual player.

Well, good move by him then. That play pretty much sealed the game.

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Here's the link to the PJ Star article:

http://www.pjstar.com/article/20140206/ ... 130/SPORTS

Wait a darn minute !! Has it come to this ??--The "new" rules , I mean ? A coach now can have a game stopped when he sees or perceives a bad thing may or may NOT have happened to one of his players ?? Especially when NO foul was called by any of THREE refs.??
This is now obviously the case ! A FARCE ! Forget refs and call the game electronically !!
Now then will Porter do the same down the line--or will that mar his BIG PICTURE ?? It is now becoming clear to me that he is a good--not great recruiter--biggies-- and his team is not ready for this league--or not good enough ?? It appears to me that he is coaching at HL League level of play.

As I saw it, we were out muscled and as a result were victims of tee many toon overs !!!!

It is now plain to me that he has nothing in the BIG man category--or if he has, he does not have ways to coach them.---See O'Leary--Do not like to name names--BUT it is what it is. We have four biggies and only Christian--a smallie knows how to play the position. Osborne is a four on a scale of 1 to 10--Is learning but late to the table. Coaches' fault --all of them.

WE PLAINLY CANNOT OR DO NOT KNOW HOW TO WIN !! Forget the Big Picture--Just WIN !

The rule to review upon request has been around for a couple of years. It is ONLY used to view contact above the shoulders or deemed to be of excessive nature. Sometimes it's after a call was made and other times it's when it was missed. Officials can choose to review or not, but it's not done until there's a dead ball and I think the coach has to request it.

We got called for something a time or two last season and then learned to bring it up whenever one of our guys got popped in the face. The refs can than decide if it's a Flagrant 1 or Flagrant 2. An F1 is ruled to be a non basketball move without nefarious intent and an F2 is ruled to be excessive and leads to an ejection.

If coach wants a review, he has to ask for it before or during the next dead ball I believe.

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This could lead to chaos. What if there is a basket before the review? Does it count or does everything go back to the time of the incident? Or what if the team committing the flagrant gets a basket they don't deserve because they gained possession because of the foul? Is that taken away? This kind of review is a violation of the long held principle of uncorrectable error.

If you just insert the foul call at the random point at which there is a dead ball it could screw up a close game. Suppose I see a flagrant that isn't called. I get possession of the ball and run a play to see if we can score then call for a review if we don't. Or if we do score I can end up with as much as an 8-point play (score 3, 2 free throws, possession, score 3 more). What if we commit a foul before calling for the review? What happens if time runs out without a dead ball and I have no timeouts left? If you don't reset to the point of the foul, there's no recourse. I haven't really put my mind to this, but I'm sure scenarios much worse than these are possible.

This is an insane rule. One more step toward totally taking the game away from the players and turning it into an exciting chess match between coaches with limitless time outs, some called from the bench in the middle of the action, punctuated by referees looking at TV and never telling the fans what the hell is going on. Three referees is too many; adding in two coaches.........well probably I'm just peeved that we lost.

Scream !! That rule should not stand. As I wrote prior to Subs' post, " Just ref the game electronically"---Goofy rule.

We received the bad end of at least ONE wrong call--albeit being a rule --Cripes !!! YUCK !!!!

This is a good rule to have in the game. You know how to avoid having a replay end up in a call against you? Don't commit a flagrant foul. Pretty simple. A flagrant is a non-basketball play.

Jeff popped the Bradley kid in the face. Even Porter agreed after the game saying "we've got to show discipline there".

You can't tell a kid not to commit any fouls, but you sure can tell him not to get a flagrant or technical. Getting an F1 at the end of a tight game is a bad team play. The coach - if he wants to scold or teach his player - hardly has a leg to stand on after last week he got a technical in the second half of another tight game.

08 - I don't think anyone is defending flagrant fouls. That one was really thoughtless and deserved to be called. But it was missed. What Brot and I are complaining about is retroactive television fouls. Hell, in that game we all saw tons of calls that were missed. If we have review for flagrant fouls, shouldn't they review missed common fouls or, in Brot's words, make the whole thing electronic?

As for Porter, no one would be happier than I if they put him in a seat belt bolted to the floor except during time outs. But in fairness, my understanding is that the official he was yelling at was not the one who called the technical. Usually a coach gets at least a non-verbal warning.

Finally, a geezer's perspective on flagrant fouls. I always like a clean game, but there was one flagrant foul in Loyola history that I had to appreciate. In the 1968 first round NCAA game against #1 Houston with Elvin Hayes, Loyola's tallest player, the late Jim Tillman at 6'5", was being battered all night by 6'10' Ken Spain. With about 7 minutes left and the game well out of reach, Tillman had had enough. Heading down court, he suddenly stopped dead at midcourt, turned around as though he had eyes in the back of his head, and in one smooth motion landed a roundhouse hook to the left jaw of the trailing Spain. There was no need for a review. Flying out to Salt Lake City and back the same night cost me 8 cents per second of game time. That was one of the very few seconds all night that was worth it.

I can think of about five or six times in the 2000-01 season alone where we could have used this rule.