natetheskate wrote:
I think a good discussion on whether to retain Coach or not has to start by looking at all the resources the coach has available to him..And that is a lot of factors. Lets just take one example. Northwestern at home tied with Michigan with 7 seconds to play Michigan ball. The coach, Behien tries to call a play, cant , too noisey from the crowd noise...ends up with a one on one shot that ricochets out of bounds touched by a Michigan guy and a NW guy...who gets the ball that's right NW...took place right in the middle of the student section. 1.7 left and I am sure most people have seen it..... out of bounds play to win the game. Drawn up by an assistant coach with 16 years of NBA experience.MY point is NW did not just win that game cuz of Chris Collins but cuz of the many resource around him from marketing to assistant coaches.
As we look at this question of whether Coach should get an extension the question has to be is he doing the best he can with what he has? And is there anyone around who could do better with the overall resources we have and do we have the resources to get them? You can dream all you want about making a great creme brulee but if all you got is skim milk it aint gonna happen.
If this were Porter's first go-round, I would probably agree. But he was also the coach at ISU for four years, where they had average crowds of near 6000 at Redbird Arena, the North Gym practice facility, the Richard and Fran Owen Strength and Conditioning Center (opened during Moser's tenure as head coach), very engaged local sponsors, a substantial season ticket base, and marketing/promotion advantages that Loyola could only dream of at this point. And yet he never finished better than 6th, never earned a .500 conference record, went 1-4 at Arch Madness, etc. So I'm not buying the resources argument. Stallings succeeded before Moser came to ISU; Tom Richardson was a mixed bag, with 2 seasons over .500 in four years but was dismissed for not getting the job done; Jankovich and Muller succeeded after Moser left ISU. In the last 25 years (since 1991-92), Illinois State has had only six seasons with a losing record, and three of them came during the four years Moser was head coach.
Is he a great recruiter? I'd say yes. I would give him a 6 on a scale of 10 as a x's and o's guy. I'd give him a 6 on game plans; I think he's sometimes brilliantly insightful, sometimes too rigid to adapt. I think he's had some great player development success stories (Ingram, Montel James, Christian Thomas), and some big disappointments (almost every player over 6'7"). He's a better recruiter than Larry Farmer, because he seems to get a similar level of talent but better students/citizens.
I remain impressed by what he did with the 2014-15 team, which I believe would have earned an NIT bid if not for Doyle's injury. But the follow up in 2016 fell flat-- the team was 0-5 in conference before he figured out how to properly use Montel James without Christian Thomas. And I like some of the stylistic proclivities he has, like the aggressive help defense, the kinds of inbound defense he uses, ways of defending big men with smaller players, etc. He's a pretty smart basketball guy. But I think he needs stronger personalities in his assistants, or, alternatively, assistants to whom he can reliably delegate important aspects of the job (e.g. big man development, game plan development, scouting, scheduling, etc.).
In short, I wouldn't want to lose him just now, but he's got to take a step forward past the best he's ever done in his career, and I'm not confident he can do it. He's had three 8-10 conference finishes at two different schools over 8 years in the MVC, and that's his best. And he was 6-28 in conference in the Horizon. If he even had ONE 12-6 or 11-7 year in there, I'd have a lot more confidence that he's worthy of a longer term renewal.