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PostPosted: Tue Dec 05, 2017 11:58 am 
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Wednesday, December 6, 2017 7:00 p.m.
Exactech Arena, Gainesville, Fla.

With a good mix of experience and talented newcomers, the Florida Gators had a lofty #8 ranking in the 2017-18 AP Preseason Poll on Nov. 1. The preseason poll in the SEC picked Florida just behind favorite Kentucky in what is expected to be an uptick in the league’s competitiveness. After powering their way to a 5-1 record against good competition (their only loss was by three points to #1 Duke) and averaging 99.5 points per game (highest in college basketball) in their first six contests, Coach Mike White's crew entered the week and their Monday night matchup with rival Florida State ranked #5 in the country.

Facing a short bench due to illness and injury, and coming off a long layoff after the PK80 tournament in Portland, the Gators couldn’t find their rhythm or their shots from distance against a disruptive Florida State defense, and lost 83-66. That’s no misprint—after averaging 99.5 points per game, they scored only 66 at home, to their biggest instate rival. FSU used swarming help defense to force long twos, forced 17 Gator turnovers, and crashed the glass for 23 offensive rebounds. The Seminoles are a team with a lot of length and quick hands, which seemed to disrupt Florida’s rhythm and force bad passes, bad shots, and turnovers. And despite Florida averaging 46% on their three-point shots coming into the game, the Seminoles held them to only 6-for-25 on threes (24%).


Florida’s likely starters are guards Jalen Hudson, KeVaughn Allen, Egor Koulechov, and Chris Chiozza, plus forward/center Kevarrius Hayes. Playing his first season with the Gators, Hudson is a 6’6” junior guard who transferred from Virginia Tech, and leads the team in scoring with 20.9 points. He pulls in 4.4 rebounds per game and shoots great from behind the arc at 46.7%. He’s fast, athletic, and takes care of the ball well. Another newcomer in the backcourt is Egor Koulechov, a 6’5” graduate transfer from Rice. Koulechov is a great three point and free throw shooter, holding top 10 career rankings in both those stats at Rice. So far in Gator country he’s putting up numbers even better than in Texas, averaging 16.7 points per game on 42.5% three-point shooting. Although he’s better at shooting threes than shooting twos, Koulechov is not simply a three-point specialist—he contributes 6.6 rebounds and 2.7 assist per game, and has hit all but one of his 23 free throw attempts.

The other two guards are both 4-star recruits from the Billy Donovan era who have started nearly every games since they were freshmen. Chris Chiozza is a 6’0” playmaker very reminiscent of Fred Van Vleet. Quick, quirky, and seemingly everywhere on the floor, Chiozza is averaging 11.7 points and 6.4 assists per game in the early going. He doesn’t take a lot of threes, but when he takes them he makes them at a 55.6% rate. Florida State shut down Chiozza with only three points, four assists and four turnovers, and zero made field goals on five attempts—in 34 minutes. Junior KeVaughn Allen is a key defender and adds 13.7 points per game, but he is the only Gator who shoots below 40% from the field on both threes and twos. Allen picks up 3.4 rebounds per game, and like Koulechov, he shoots over 90% from the line.

Kevarrius Hayes is a 6’9” junior forward/center who starts about half the games for the Gators, switching off or pairing up with 6’8” forward Keith Stone depending on the matchup. Hayes averages 4.7 points, 4.3 rebounds and 1.85 blocks per game. Stone averages 5.7 points and only 2.3 rebounds; he likes to play a bit further away from the basket and should be considered a dangerous threat from three.

Florida’s bench is surprisingly short for a legitimate Final Four contender. Besides the likelihood of Stone coming off the bench, only 6’8” four-star freshman shooting guard Deaundrae Ballard (8.3 points, 3.1 rebounds) 6’3” four-star freshman guard Mike Okauru (5.3 points per game), and 6’11” sophomore center Gorjok Gak (7’4” wingspan) have seen time in every game.

Wednesday night’s matchup in Gainesville will be the first meeting in history between the Ramblers and the Florida Gators. The Gators are one of four teams Loyola has never faced in the SEC; Alabama, Auburn, and Tennessee are the others. It’s also their last of only two non-con games against a top 100 foe. The Ramblers had perhaps their best game of the year and received significant contributions from newcomers Adarius Avery, Lucas Williamson, and Cameron Krutwig in their win against UIC on Saturday. Defensively, Loyola looked much improved over the first week of the season, and the team looked rejuvenated from a long road trip and searing loss at Boise State. But to beat Florida, on their own floor, immediately following their fourth straight loss to their in-state rival, is going to take another higher level of defense and some fortunate bounces.

Having watched parts of three Florida games this year, one gets the impression sometimes that the Gators like to take it easy. They’re all ultra-talented, but the mental toughness, killer instinct, willingness to work extra hard for every ball, willingness to sacrifice for the team, diving to the floor for a loose ball, etc. is something that has yet to emerge on a consistent basis. A couple of weeks ago, the Gators prevailed in a lackluster 70-63 home win against New Hampshire where they had only three assists and shot 3-of-18 from three. Their three-point loss to Duke came after Florida led by 17 points in that game with ten minutes to play, and led by 10 with 4:15 left. And then there was Monday’s return to lacklusterdom against a hard-working, pressing rival with a nuisance defense.

It almost seems like if it’s going to be a big hassle for these guys, they’re not really into it. It’s somewhat telling when the game story of Florida's loss has the headline “Gators Get Roughed Up by Seminoles, Must Toughen Up”-- and that’s on Florida's own official website.

Loyola game notes: http://www.loyolaramblers.com/documents ... df?id=4754

Florida game notes: http://floridagators.com/documents/2017 ... hicago.pdf

TV/Streaming video: SEC Network / http://www.espn.com/watch/_/id/3207014/ ... basketball

Radio/Audio: Sirius 135 / XM 191

Vegas odds: Florida by 15.5


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PostPosted: Tue Dec 05, 2017 2:19 pm 
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I agree with the majority on the other Florida thread that their losing to FSU was the worst thing that could have happened to us. They are much less likely to look past us now, and will be motivated to atone for their poor performance and end a 2 game losing streak.

I'm guessing we will be a 17+ point underdog, and unless we have a hot shooting night or Avery suddenly emerges as Batman, we will be fortunate to cover the spread.


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PostPosted: Tue Dec 05, 2017 7:06 pm 
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For the first time in many years we have at lest NINE really talented players who can compete. We got killed in Boise--That is now behind us-- The real problems are playing AT Florida and SEC refs, who will not let anything untoward happen to the Gators. I really believe our talent and coaching is on a par with FLA

We shall do our best , pick up a nice check and a ton of good experience-- If two of our guys get hot--Townes and Ingram maybe--then , who knows ?? We will not be embarrassed

We cover !!


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PostPosted: Wed Dec 06, 2017 12:18 pm 
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Apparently, the Gators are looking to rough somebody up to shed their "soft" label.

http://www.gainesville.com/news/2017120 ... nst-loyola

Hope our guys hit their free throws tonight, and go after anyone who gets into foul trouble. The Gators don't have much depth past the 8th player.


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PostPosted: Wed Dec 06, 2017 12:27 pm 
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I don't know how easy it is to shed the "soft" label. It's early in the year, I guess, but I think guys are just willing to play tough or they aren't. Hard to change.

Also, from the article:

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While Loyola-Chicago is a more perimeter oriented team than FSU, the Ramblers do have some size inside with 6-foot-9, 260-pound freshman Cameron Krutwig at center and 7-foot, 245-pound center Cameron Brate coming off the bench.


Why haven't we seen Cameron Brate? He sounds like he might be good.

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PostPosted: Wed Dec 06, 2017 12:48 pm 
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ahunte1 wrote:
Why haven't we seen Cameron Brate? He sounds like he might be good.


He's been too busy underachieving in Tampa Bay

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GoRamblers wrote:
ahunte1 wrote:
Why haven't we seen Cameron Brate? He sounds like he might be good.


He's been too busy underachieving in Tampa Bay


We’ve probably been hiding him, waiting to catch the right team off guard. Our cover has been blown.


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PostPosted: Wed Dec 06, 2017 1:23 pm 
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Should be interesting tonight. I think we have to hope that they come in uninspired (see their new hampshire score). In spite of the FSU loss, these guys smoked Stanford, beat Gonzaga in a great game, then ran out of gas against Duke for a close loss.
I will take anything within 10 at the half as a good sign for our club. Keep in mind, we are not healthy yet.


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PostPosted: Wed Dec 06, 2017 3:07 pm 
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There are multiple boards for Florida and less than 10 posts on this game. Also, one calls us Loyala.

I hope the Gators are underestimating us as much as their fans are.

http://www.gatorcountry.com/swampgas/th ... cn.384581/

http://gatorchatter.com/threads/officia ... ago.18259/


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This team needs an easy win to get their heads back together. I have a feeling they are going to come out and really destroy Loyola-Chicago and they should!


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...but you would expect that facing an out-manned team, that we should cruise to the win.

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PostPosted: Wed Dec 06, 2017 4:10 pm 
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I really hate the gators, and would love to win! I think we have a shot. I think there are 2 ways we can win this. Either Townes and Custer drive the ball and draw some fouls, or we control the pace, and wear them out.


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