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OUR TEAM

Postby brot4britu » Fri Nov 08, 2019 5:49 pm

This bunch led by Krut and Will started off as a TEAM and it must and will do the same--I saw lots of discipcline against DAVIS Continue this tonight and a win =will come our way
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Postby natetheskate » Sat Nov 09, 2019 7:29 pm

Brot,,,even after the loss Friday I have a little more faith that this group will play as a team and gel and get better as the season goes along...gonna take some patience on our part.....but after all we waited 50 some years to get back to the FINAL FOUR....so a month aint gonna hurt us.
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Postby JC64 » Sat Nov 09, 2019 10:05 pm

Considering that we have three freshmen, a sophomore playing his first year, and a JUCO transfer in the rotation, I believe that the team deserves a little patience from the fans. IMO they will be much improved come Arch Madness.
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Postby 01grad » Wed Nov 13, 2019 5:38 pm

This is all still true, IMHO
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Postby Mudville21 » Thu Nov 14, 2019 11:10 am

There will always be growing pains when you are incorporating young and inexperienced players. It is a process. Funny that we have been kinda spoiled to expect success, which is a good thing. Some quick observations:

1) Defense: It seems to me that we have changed our defense a bit and it is hurting us. The past few years we switched EVERYTHING on defense. In other words we were not getting bogged down by trying to fight through screens. In fact, most of the teams in the MVC play defense this way, especially since LU started having great success with it. This year seems like we are not switching everything and instead we are trying to fight through screens. Our bigs have not been as aggressive in showing early and forcing the ball handlers to change directions (back towards half court) or stopping as a result, our bigs show late and ball handler turns the corner with the defender on his back and the screener rolling to the hoop with the ballhandler in a little 2 on 1 scenario vs our big in the lane. We are now forced to crash inside to help with other players and hence open 3's. When we switch everything, there is less help and recovery out to the arc is quicker.

2) Scoring: This team has players that can be effective in transition and they have tried to run more. When you run more or play quicker, you get more possessions into the game-for BOTH teams. This is going to lead to slightly higher offensive numbers for the other guys. The key to playing up tempo is make good decisions and know when to pull back out. As Johnny Wooden used to say, you want to play quick, not fast. TO's when running has been an issue and leads to the other teaming getting more shots up that us.

3) Offense: We have a tendency to go away from hot shooters. Tate Hall was locked in pretty good against Coppin and there were long stretches where he did not get a look or that nothing seemed to be run for him. We were actually setting up our sets on the opposite side of the floor from him. We did this a lot last year with Cooper. Our player movement at times also stalls. Our shooters also tend be stationary. It would be nice to have our wing players rotate, set screens and not be predicable in terms where they are standing on the floor. Watch what Creighton did to us in the NIT last year. Pretty offense with movement. UC Davis we were in constant movement the whole game. Furman and Coppin not as much. Now in the MVC, teams will pack it into the lane until we prove we can consistently stick 3's, so backdoors are gonna be tough to come by. Krut will be double or triple teamed.

The good news is that Tate has shown he can play and is tough kid. Lucas is not going to shoot 0-8 from 3 very often. Marquise has shown flashes and still learning to play in an offense where he is not handling the ball as much and clearly does not have the freedom he had in HS, and Tom is getting acquainted with the more physical post play of collage ball. We got some guys hurt and we are young. The good news is from watching the bench, the players seem like they like each other, they have good motors and if they work hard and the coaches do a better job with learning the players and playing to their strengths, we should be fine.

My expectation with this group was that 2020-2021 was the year that we were gonna be monsters and ready to go. It could happen sooner, time will tell.
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Postby swellafelon » Thu Nov 14, 2019 1:01 pm

Solid debut, Mudville21! Sounds like you really know your basketball.

Now onto more important things. For your Ramblermania nickname do you prefer Mudman, Mudpuppy, Mud-luscious ( an e e cummings' coinage), or Elmer Mudd?
Not that your preference really matters...
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Postby JC64 » Thu Nov 14, 2019 1:21 pm

Note to Swella: e e cummings eschewed capital letters, thus mud-luscious
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Postby swellafelon » Thu Nov 14, 2019 1:43 pm

He eschewed, true, but I'm adapting "mud-luscious" for use as a proper noun; viz., a nickname, which means "Mud-luscious" may properly be capitalized when referring to Mudville21.
Of course this is all academic as I intend to call him Elmer Mudd.
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Postby Mudville21 » Thu Nov 14, 2019 7:43 pm

Thanks for the kind words! You can call me Casey, lol
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Postby swellafelon » Fri Nov 15, 2019 7:57 am

Looks like you read poetry too Casey.

Re your comments on defense, it seems to me we went away from doing the hard hedge with our bigs defending at the top of the key a year or two ago.
It used to be very effective at disrupting the opponent's offensive flow.
Maybe we're switching less early this season so Porter can gauge our newcomers' defensive abilities and willingness to fight through screens. Or maybe our roster isn't as well suited to play a switching D as in the past. The reason Porter likes 6'4" guys is that with their size they can guard multiple positions. Now we have a 6'1" Kennedy and a 6'8" Welch who might get into a mismatch when switching. Next year will be even worse with a couple small guys coming online in 5'11" Norris and 6'1" Hebb.
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