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PostPosted: Fri Jul 23, 2021 12:41 pm 
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It appears OU and Texas are SEC-bound.

Two thoughts:

1) Porter Moser's job probably just got a lot harder :)

2) Worth watching the potential conference domino effect on the basketball front. The Big 12 could try to add some AAC teams (Houston? Cincinnati?), which would create some holes in that conference. AAC could look to add from the A10 or MVC.


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PostPosted: Fri Jul 23, 2021 1:13 pm 
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I’d say it’s almost guaranteed to have a domino effect. It’s entirely possible that the Big12 dissolves completely, with Kansas rumored to be looking at the Big10, and others eyeing the Pac12. West Virginia has always been a geographical outlier, I can’t imagine they wouldn’t be looking elsewhere if those three big 3 leave. Combined with the new world of NIL, and it could be a tidal wave type change to college sports. Possibly the biggest since the early 90’s.

If and when it does happen, with allegiances probably being set in the next year, you have to feel good about our position…or at least thankful we’re on the run that we’re on now.


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PostPosted: Sun Jul 25, 2021 8:54 am 
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From Porter's perspective, it is probably an easier schedule. Most of the SEC teams focus on football with basketball as distant second. If you are in the SEC West - I would rather play LSU, Ole Miss, Auburn and Alabama than Kansas, Kansas State, Texas Tech and Iowa State. I know that some of the programs make runs like Alabama last year and Auburn, but their is a lot of mediocre basketball in the SEC. The good news for Porter is more money for Oklahoma.


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 27, 2021 10:58 am 
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I fall in the same camp that thinks his schedule got easier.


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BROT for one does NOT care where he plays !!!


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PostPosted: Wed Jul 28, 2021 1:55 am 
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The Big 12 (yes, the conference that won the men's hoops National Championship last year) is in some trouble. They're already down to 10 teams, and if OU and Texas leave that's 8. West Virginia doesn't belong in that Midwest conference, and Kansas pays a lot more attention to basketball than football. If West Virginia decides to try and get into the ACC because of the decline in football, you're getting close to the minimum number of teams to keep an auto bid.

So do they try to add somewhat decent football/basketball programs from the region looking to upgrade? Houston, Tulsa, Colorado State, Boise State, and SMU might be candidates to backfill those spots. If Tulsa, SMU or Houston leave the AAC, does Wichita State (without Gregggggg Marshall) think about begging back in to the MVC?

Would SLU or Dayton go to the AAC to replace Houston? What if only one of them left the A10? An A10 without SLU or Dayton (and especially without both) would be weaker than the MVC, in my opinion. If one team left, why not recruit the hell out of the other to join the MVC with (or without) Murray State? I think that would vault the MVC over the A10 in conference strength.

Basically, I'm of the mind that Dayton and SLU don't belong in the A10. They're Midwest schools with Midwest identities traveling to Rhode Island, North Carolina, Central Virginia, DC, Western Mass, and Upstate New York. Not exactly prime recruiting areas, and costly, distant road trips. Those teams are only in the A10 because of budgets, bad experiences with the MVC and Horizon, and pride.

Getting a Dayton or Saint Louis in the conference would basically mandate that Illinois State, Indiana State, and Evansville raise their anemic budgets. It would also go a ways to force Valpo to improve their basketball facility.

Other thoughts?


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PostPosted: Wed Jul 28, 2021 6:28 am 
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conferences look for national reach not regional anymore....unfortunately....or whatever gives you a bigger tv reach and more tv revenue
The Dakotas would love to join the B12......I think the New Mexicos as well.......
Wichita State and the Koch(k) brothers have been looking to add football for a long time.....

sad to me is that our concept of amateur college athletics has been ripped apart little by little as tv money as sliced and diced till people are diving for the last penny laying under the table...The U of Chicago quit playing football in 1939 because it became "too crass" .

JCT , you raise some good questions on how all this movement will effect the Valley....I am assuming the ADs are like being in the kitchen during an earthquake,,,hanging on to the tea cups..... Is Missouri St...a fit for the Big12 ?


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PostPosted: Wed Jul 28, 2021 8:39 am 
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Yeah I could see the AAC trying to add the remaining B12 football schools. Would be a semi-decent conference. Maybe Wichita adds football as had been rumored for a long time.

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 28, 2021 7:03 pm 
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https://www.espn.com/college-football/s ... s-no-merit


This is an interesting take on this, and given The Mothership's history, not surprising.


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PostPosted: Thu Jul 29, 2021 8:09 am 
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NuncEstBibendum wrote:
https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/31907406/big-12-alleges-espn-trying-destabilize-league-network-says-claims-no-merit


This is an interesting take on this, and given The Mothership's history, not surprising.


"This whole thing has been a complete articulation of deception."

What a turn of phrase. Bowlsby is acting like he's living out a Le Carre novel lol


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