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PostPosted: Thu Nov 22, 2018 12:56 am 
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I wanted to make this post after watching tonights game, and wanted to not get into a technical critique of each play and player.....
PM talks about the process and we should be doing the same. We are measuring every game this year,
based on our expectations of last season. I know I have been doing that. It's NOT realistic. It puts too much pressure on this team and it shows in their play. Assimilation of young players is a challenge that will be fruitful in time. The team that played so well last season was three years in the making. This years team has the advantage of not starting from scratch, but the burden of making the pieces fit together with consistency.
On the positive side, we've seen glimpses of what our freshmen can do, and I see more good than bad.
PM and the players will figure out the combinations that work, but each game will be a real time learning experience.
BC, Nevada, Maryland, St. Joes are teams that in the past we would not even be thinking about playing, let alone defeating,
so why would we assume that we instantly will be on that level day in and day out. If this years team just played statistically average games, we would be undefeated at this point. But the didn't, and we aren't.
I will look at our remaining non conference games as live learning sessions that will hopefully get our guys in sync for the conference season.
Go Ramblers.....
PS, Regarding all of the Uguak bashing, no one can argue that he's not played as expected. PM certainly sees something there, as he is historically a quick hook for underperformers. It's his call, and I hope to see this player get over the hump and not get tossed in the pile.


On initial read, I can’t say I disagree with any of this. Well done.


I have to say I agree as well. When it comes down to it I’m not a coach and I trust Porter. I think some of the players still seem to be in the mindset that we’re a final four team and they’re trying to play like our old team. They’re not that team they can still go through Porter’s process but it’s stupid to try and play like them and it’s stupid for us to expect that out of them. The rest of our non con games should definitely be viewed as learning experiences. We’re not fighting for a tourney bid anymore, or an AP rank. That’s gone and not a big deal, let’s focus on developing these young guys and winning our conference.


Don’t get me wrong, I still think and hope we’ll beat the shit out of Nevada, but I’m being patient.


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PostPosted: Thu Nov 22, 2018 1:04 am 
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On a related but off topic note, like Blers42, I wonder how athletes get the rep of being athletic. Yes, standing on the court, Aguak looks like he would be athletic. I supposed being quick, fast, jumping high, etc are all signs of athleticism, but I've been to every game but 1 and Aguak seems incredibly unathletic. He has missed dunks, looks awkward shooting, has falling several times that make him seem unbalanced and generally doesn't seem basketball savvy or coordinated. When he has the ball you can spot him a mile away as awkward which is the opposite of athletic. Maybe he is a raw athlete but not a BB athlete at this point.

I am def not in favor of Kaifes starting (for now he's a role player imo) but I sure wish we could try and get Negron there. Granted he has a lot of holes but he looked better on D tonight and seems much farther along than Aguak. I will say that I completely agree with JCT; the only times Aguak looked good tonight was inside. Porter seemed to go away from that but I liked when he had him near the basket. One other takeaway: We are not good with speed. I agree that our d was very weak tonight. I thing that was due to a lot of speed and movement. All said, if we don't start shooting better, it won't matter. Porter WILL get the defense in better shape. He can't get the ball in the basket.


Seriously though uguak doesn’t seem athletic to me at all other than being tall and being able to jump somewhat high. To me that doesn’t equate to athleticism. Also his vertical doesn’t seem very impressive for his height and “athletic” hype I’ve been hearing about. The multiple failed dunks.... that doesn’t occur when you’re genetically athletic and 6’7”. Just saying guys, who started throwing this term around? The kid hasn’t grown into his body yet, he looks awkward all of the time. I can see the potential for this hype but it’s definitely not here now. Im done throwing hate on him, I’m just tired of the unearned praise and I don’t think it should be ignored.


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PostPosted: Thu Nov 22, 2018 1:15 am 
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Blers42 wrote:
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On a related but off topic note, like Blers42, I wonder how athletes get the rep of being athletic. Yes, standing on the court, Aguak looks like he would be athletic. I supposed being quick, fast, jumping high, etc are all signs of athleticism, but I've been to every game but 1 and Aguak seems incredibly unathletic. He has missed dunks, looks awkward shooting, has falling several times that make him seem unbalanced and generally doesn't seem basketball savvy or coordinated. When he has the ball you can spot him a mile away as awkward which is the opposite of athletic. Maybe he is a raw athlete but not a BB athlete at this point.

I am def not in favor of Kaifes starting (for now he's a role player imo) but I sure wish we could try and get Negron there. Granted he has a lot of holes but he looked better on D tonight and seems much farther along than Aguak. I will say that I completely agree with JCT; the only times Aguak looked good tonight was inside. Porter seemed to go away from that but I liked when he had him near the basket. One other takeaway: We are not good with speed. I agree that our d was very weak tonight. I thing that was due to a lot of speed and movement. All said, if we don't start shooting better, it won't matter. Porter WILL get the defense in better shape. He can't get the ball in the basket.


Seriously though uguak doesn’t seem athletic to me at all other than being tall and being able to jump somewhat high. To me that doesn’t equate to athleticism. Also his vertical doesn’t seem very impressive for his height and “athletic” hype I’ve been hearing about. The multiple failed dunks.... that doesn’t occur when you’re genetically athletic and 6’7”. Just saying guys, who started throwing this term around? The kid hasn’t grown into his body yet, he looks awkward all of the time. I can see the potential for this hype but it’s definitely not here now. Im done throwing hate on him, I’m just tired of the unearned praise and I don’t think it should be ignored.


I think the kid has serious potential, but still has some sharpening to do in terms of his potential. We shouldn’t forget that he’s a sophomore in terms of eligibility.


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PostPosted: Thu Nov 22, 2018 1:34 am 
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01grad wrote:
Blers42 wrote:
RamblerSam wrote:
On a related but off topic note, like Blers42, I wonder how athletes get the rep of being athletic. Yes, standing on the court, Aguak looks like he would be athletic. I supposed being quick, fast, jumping high, etc are all signs of athleticism, but I've been to every game but 1 and Aguak seems incredibly unathletic. He has missed dunks, looks awkward shooting, has falling several times that make him seem unbalanced and generally doesn't seem basketball savvy or coordinated. When he has the ball you can spot him a mile away as awkward which is the opposite of athletic. Maybe he is a raw athlete but not a BB athlete at this point.

I am def not in favor of Kaifes starting (for now he's a role player imo) but I sure wish we could try and get Negron there. Granted he has a lot of holes but he looked better on D tonight and seems much farther along than Aguak. I will say that I completely agree with JCT; the only times Aguak looked good tonight was inside. Porter seemed to go away from that but I liked when he had him near the basket. One other takeaway: We are not good with speed. I agree that our d was very weak tonight. I thing that was due to a lot of speed and movement. All said, if we don't start shooting better, it won't matter. Porter WILL get the defense in better shape. He can't get the ball in the basket.


Seriously though uguak doesn’t seem athletic to me at all other than being tall and being able to jump somewhat high. To me that doesn’t equate to athleticism. Also his vertical doesn’t seem very impressive for his height and “athletic” hype I’ve been hearing about. The multiple failed dunks.... that doesn’t occur when you’re genetically athletic and 6’7”. Just saying guys, who started throwing this term around? The kid hasn’t grown into his body yet, he looks awkward all of the time. I can see the potential for this hype but it’s definitely not here now. Im done throwing hate on him, I’m just tired of the unearned praise and I don’t think it should be ignored.


I think the kid has serious potential, but still has some sharpening to do in terms of his potential. We shouldn’t forget that he’s a sophomore in terms of eligibility.


At this point with uguak and all of the other new guys It really seems to come down to confidence. I see the potential in all of them, that’s why I’m hoping this all gets worked out in the beginning of the season. They just don’t look comfortable now and I think it can only go up from here. Yeah it might take some time and it might not be pretty but I’ve got hope in them and the final four stigma and expectations should be washed away somewhat now. I’m hoping that helps them relax and realize it’s not expected out of them.


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PostPosted: Thu Nov 22, 2018 1:48 am 
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Good lord. The players and coaches called him athletic. Carson shanks on Twitter and Ben Richardson on the blers madness podcast, Moser and Custer talked about him in countless interviews; one where moser said we haven’t had an athlete like him before. Aka the people who practice him for an entire season. Some of the skills may be raw but anyone doubting his speed/jumping ability/length etc are crazy and clearly blinded by their expectations not being met.

His finish at the rim through contact tonight wasn’t a clean dunk but it took an insane amount of body control. His dunk through contact against Niagra was a dunk no one on our team would have been able to make (maybe Avery could have). But if y’all want a player who subtweets the team and throws fits/eggs on young players to complain on the bench like some perceived from Avery last year then be my guest. I’ll take the young kid working to find his niche on a team with absurd expectations who doesn’t pout anytime something doesn’t go his way.


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PostPosted: Thu Nov 22, 2018 1:55 am 
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Ditto!!!!


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Blers wrote:
Good lord. The players and coaches called him athletic. Carson shanks on Twitter and Ben Richardson on the blers madness podcast, Moser and Custer talked about him in countless interviews; one where moser said we haven’t had an athlete like him before. Aka the people who practice him for an entire season. Some of the skills may be raw but anyone doubting his speed/jumping ability/length etc are crazy and clearly blinded by their expectations not being met.

His finish at the rim through contact tonight wasn’t a clean dunk but it took an insane amount of body control. His dunk through contact against Niagra was a dunk no one on our team would have been able to make (maybe Avery could have). But if y’all want a player who subtweets the team and throws fits/eggs on young players to complain on the bench like some perceived from Avery last year then be my guest. I’ll take the young kid working to find his niche on a team with absurd expectations who doesn’t pout anytime something doesn’t go his way.


Thank you! Exactly how I’ve been feeling. He hasn’t been great yet but you can’t deny his gifts. Also liked what another poster said, Moser is known for yanking people for mistakes. He doesn’t do that with Aher, he trusts him, and if Moser does that’s good enough for me.


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My comment about preferring to have Avery still was more about being frusterated that in Clay & Townes senior seasons 40% of the rotation is 1st year players for us. I think all the freshmen will be good one day. But it is sad that we may not capitalize on having those two for one last season. I understand the season is long and that the guys will develop. I dont think the worlds ending. But i also don't think we have enough, at the moment, to make is to Valley tournament final.


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I've seen a few people mention defense as an issue, but that is by far our stronger end right now. Our rebounding has been phenomenal--we are 3rd in the country in defensive rebounding % per Kenpom. We are doing a good job keeping teams off the free throw line. Yes, there are occasions where the other team gets an easy basket, but in general they are few and far between. Quite honestly, I don't have a lot of concerns about our defense. It will get stronger as the new players integrate.

Offense is another story. We are passing up good shots, but not getting great shots in return. That is our signature when we are going well. Right now, somebody who doesn't have confidence in his shot passes up an open look, and we end up in scramble mode. Other than gaining the confidence to take and make open shots, I think the biggest improvement we can make is what someone said recently in this thread: Krutwig has to get strong position inside and demand the ball.

In the second half last night there was an instance where Kaifes came in and on one play hit a three, and then found Krutwig inside for a bucket. Frankly on that play, Krutwig wasn't any more or less open than he normally is, but Kaifes got him the ball. Townes finally made a three when the ball went inside out: Krutwig drew the defense and found Townes open. We need more inside play to get easier shots. By the way, we are 7th in the country in 2-point percentage. We are struggling to find those shots against teams that are on the longer/bigger side.

P.S. How good has Lucas been this year? We would have lost the Richmond game without him, and he held Bowman in check last night and still found a way to be arguably our best offensive player, too.

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 22, 2018 9:56 am 
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Lots of stuff
1. Still wishing we had picked up a 5th yr grad transfer....saw where Connor Cashaw is getting minimal minutes with Creighton
2. Ben Richardson and all of his intangibles will be hard to replace with newbies. I think his on ball defense was worth the price of admission and sparked our team defense and the transition offense. Lucas may get there....
3. Coach likes to make his players fit the system rather than the system fit the players. At this point does not look like we have the players to fit the system. Donte Ingram was the key for the offensive system in that he was an inside/outside guy and basically was our 4 power forward, Small forward, off guard, point guard. the one player that at this point fits the profile but not the skill set is Uguak. Negron seems like a power forward, maybe small forward but not the ball handling skills to run the system?
4. Options are to go smaller with 4 true guards...which means Bujdoso or Kaifes or switch offensive systems with a true center and power forward
5. Coach has seen a lot of these guys,,,,He must have seen something in Uguak during practice that made him think he was the guy,,,,so maybe it just is a getting feet wet kind of thing.
6. No one teaches or plays defense in AAU ball....These guys come in not playing great defense,,,takes time for Coach to drill it in to them. I truly believe a lot of our success last year is that a lot of the better players we faced had not had anyone play defense against them like we did.
7. Krutwig had 0 assists against BC....tells me he did not get enough touches...If we do not start hitting 3s...then teams will be able to keep the ball out of his hands.
8.So last year the goal from fairly early on was how far can we go....this year as a Rambler fan the fun might be to see how much we improve...Hope everyone embraces that and we continue to get good crowds.


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