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 Post subject: Loyola To The Big east?
PostPosted: Thu Mar 18, 2021 11:29 am 
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No, I don't know anything ( about this; well, actually, a lot of things..)

If Loyola makes a bit of a run and Moser stays - would the Big East consider expanding its foot print in the Midwest by adding Loyola and St. Louis? Both are basketball first, Catholic schools, and have had solid runs over the last ten years or so. By adding them you give travel partners when scheduling Creighton and DePaul. It would certainly raise the the publicity for the Big East if your add them - especially in Chicago.


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PostPosted: Thu Mar 18, 2021 12:02 pm 
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I think it is rather unlikely this would happen, likewise with swapping Loyola and Depaul.


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PostPosted: Thu Mar 18, 2021 12:12 pm 
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This would never happen. Loyola would need to seriously up their budget on everything to compete at the high major level. Is the money even there? We would also have to have a brand new arena brand new training facilities. Can we pay as much as DePaul did for a new arena in the city? Wasn’t that over a hundred mill?

It would also be uphill battle against DePaul and I don’t think the Big East would want to teams in the same city. Also look at how bad DePaul is doing we would probably have a bad period to. Is that even worth it


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PostPosted: Thu Mar 18, 2021 1:23 pm 
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Two things.

They quite literally built a brand new practice facility last year. They would be fine at a practice facility level.

DePauls stadium was funded by the tax payers of Chicago, not by the university. The bill of goods feasibility study for that monstrosity projected about 33% better attendence than crap big east basketball and poorly located concerts can draw. Big empty stadiums suck regardless of which conference they're in.

Depaul is a bad program flag out. They don't draw fans or attention in any meaningful way. They don't generate tournament dollars or interest for their league. And yet they're a big east quality program. If that's what the big east accepts from it's members they should welcome us with open arms. We at least move the needle from an interest stand point.


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PostPosted: Thu Mar 18, 2021 1:48 pm 
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Two things.

They quite literally built a brand new practice facility last year. They would be fine at a practice facility level.

DePauls stadium was funded by the tax payers of Chicago, not by the university. The bill of goods feasibility study for that monstrosity projected about 33% better attendence than crap big east basketball and poorly located concerts can draw. Big empty stadiums suck regardless of which conference they're in.

Depaul is a bad program flag out. They don't draw fans or attention in any meaningful way. They don't generate tournament dollars or interest for their league. And yet they're a big east quality program. If that's what the big east accepts from it's members they should welcome us with open arms. We at least move the needle from an interest stand point.



My point is gentile arena won’t cut it in the BE. my point is the university even in the financial situation to play in there. Obviously we will get more money from the conference but they would need to be millions of dollars in investments in the program. I think DePaul was just at the right place at the right time and that’s why they were excepted into it.

I really don’t think the university is going to front tens of millions of dollars for investment into a basketball program. Granted we are doing pretty good right now but why change Is the grass really greener on the other side?

I truly believe the Big East is the best basketball conference in the country. I just don’t think Loyola has the means to make the step up. I also don’t see then adding anyone else. 11 teams = 20 conference games. That’s on pair with big ten and acc. They won’t want to add teams and then have an East and west division.


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PostPosted: Thu Mar 18, 2021 2:07 pm 
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I don’t think this will happen, mainly because Depaul would do anything and everything possible to prevent it. But in terms of arenas, doesn’t St John’s play most of their games in their on campus arena, and a few marquee games at MSG? I could see us arranging something like that with one of the larger venues in the city. But, i think it’s all about as likely as me winning my bracket


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PostPosted: Thu Mar 18, 2021 3:31 pm 
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I could see the next step up in conference being something like the AAC. They are essentially a midwest and great plaines conference and I'm sure would love to get a foothold in the biggest market in the region. A10 would be a possibility as well

No conference is going to be looking to duplicate what it already has in terms of reach so no way the Big East would ever be calling while De Paul is a member.


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PostPosted: Thu Mar 18, 2021 4:43 pm 
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I agree that’s what the feeling of some schools would be, and Depaul would want no part of it....but I think it would be a huge boost to the Big East, and honestly even Depaul in the Chicago market. It creates instant rivalry games, something more people would likely pay more attention to than they do now. We’re already beating Depaul out for some recruits. But they aren’t likely to see it that way, which is why it’s extremely unlikely to happen.


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PostPosted: Thu Mar 18, 2021 4:46 pm 
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There is no way DePaul would let Loyola get in the Big East.

A stadium would not be a problem. I remember they complained that the size of the Gentile Center was not sufficient for the MVC. For big games, we could move to another facility, like we did in the 80s and like St. John's and Villanova does. Villanova's new stadium seats 6,501. St Johns stadium is 5,600.


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PostPosted: Thu Mar 18, 2021 7:14 pm 
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The BIG LEAST would be only fair to middlin for us--A 10 could be better--Now then for the present we OWN the Valley . We cruised through the League and then our tourney was DOMINATED BY US--
How about a new league ?? Say Bonny Canisius Duquesne Detroit UIC Dayton St Louis Belmont E- N- and W Kentucky And LUC


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